You can spend a lot of time focusing on stats as a rogue, and as important as gear and weapons are as a contributing factor to our damage, our energy and how we use it matters more. In BC I would say energy management had a lot more to do with our gameplay. Energy ticked in pulses and you had to take your energy into consideration for interrupts. Now it’s very rare you are out of energy for a kick. It was a different dynamic, but energy management is still very important to our class.
The main concept here is not necessarily just spamming mutilate every time you have the energy, but saving it up so that you can deliver several mutilates and finishers in sequence at the optimal time. The question then is “what is the optimal time?”
The first thing you need to consider when thinking about when to deliver your burst by dumping energy is what situation are your teammates in? Are they able to assist with damage, dispels/purges, or control when you dump your energy, or are they controlled or busy being defensive themselves? If your mage frostbolts a target, then you get to the target 6 seconds after and your mage is now shut down through control or peels, pumping all of your damage now makes it a lot easier on the opposing healer.
The optimal time to dump energy is when you have some kind of control on the opposing healer (this can be anything from a blanket counterspell silence to a blind, sheep, cyclone, etc) and your teammates are free to damage and play offensively. If your priest is at ten percent health and can’t dispel or support damage, or your caster has two melee on them, this probably not the best time to blow your burst and dump all of your energy.
Another good time to blow your energy is when you can pool up and land a cs on a target. This is especially true when you want to kill another rogue. If you can land a cheap shot on them at full energy, try to immediately cs–> mut–> cb evis–> mut rather than kidney shotting. If your teammate can squeeze in damage I find this is the best way to drop rogues in arena.
I find it’s also a good idea to pool energy against priest teams and save energy until a shield is down. You can really burst priests hard when you catch them without a shield and you have a full energy bar. On druid teams, swapping is a lot more important, so I like to save my energy right before I’m about to do a swap. With the nature of druid healing, if you can put enough pressure in a swap the damage can be unhealable unless their teammates can peel.
Now let me make it clear that I’m not saying you should just stand around at full energy all game until the perfect moment comes. The key is knowing when a target is nowhere near dieing that you don’t have to just continually pump damage into them. There are key moments in arena matches where your energy management can be the difference between winning and losing; it’s the key to your burst potential as a rogue, and for our class burst damage is the key to scoring kills. It’s something you should take into consideration at all times.
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Now I really have no problem with this gear set except (once again) the helm. I’d love a helm that actually looks like a hood or a mask…something a rogue would actually use. Rogue gear usually doesn’t look too bad but for some reason Blizz can never give us a proper head slot.
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When will they remove the ‘out of place’ Indian style forehead spot/gem from our pvp helms -_- (racism not intended)
Comment by toragami — October 14, 2009 @ 11:02 am
Well………..New sets released and once again blizz as Akrios said wont give us a nice looking head…The new shoulders look amazing on the other hand, but teh head is liek WWII marines head -.-
Now as far the Energy Management post, is something that most of the rogues know-how-to, takes some time but everyone gets to it at the least end!!Great tips thx for sharing!
Comment by septicx — October 14, 2009 @ 11:04 am
1st, I totally agree planning your energy is best way to score.
I agree again T10 Head, total fail i don’t like it, rest of it is OK, I’ll just won’t show my head and it will look good (I hope)
Comment by Stereth — October 14, 2009 @ 11:12 am
Good article for the energy management
Comment by Altäzär — October 14, 2009 @ 11:16 am
I read your energy management post n i liked it. I also see that in ur movies how (at least back when u played with Aeias) ur pooling up energy for a cs ks with tricks up while the other opponents is in a poly/blind/sap. Even tho ive played RM for a very long time myself and also reached high with it, i actually learned some new things from you and Aeias. In addition i love your playstyle
. @the t.10 set, i think it actually looks good except for the head as mentioned. Some ppls tend to judge gear as they see the preview. Id like to wait for the gear to be owned by someone before i rlly judge the look of it, from this preview i think it looks cool (and again except for the helmet..).
Comment by Deliwio — October 14, 2009 @ 11:45 am
Dunno, but I love this helm. Maybe I’m the only one that plays MGS in this world >.>
Comment by Clatt — October 14, 2009 @ 12:49 pm
Good read, I actually kind of like that helm though, I do agree that most of the rogue helms most have been created by someone tripping on acid.
Warlock gear > anything else….as far as looks.
Comment by Critler — October 14, 2009 @ 1:07 pm
when you cheap shot muti cb evis rogues. you mean in 3s right? in 2s almost always put rupture on with 3 combos instantly when they’re with priest even. wish me and my mage could find a sick priest for 3s:(
Comment by irpete — October 14, 2009 @ 1:25 pm
I think the best moment to save energy is right before you launch your next Eviscerate movie ^^
Can’t wait !
Btw, Curse 3 is amazing, a review of it, from you, would be nice. Duels vs. Lock or Mage are the best I think. Duels again DK or Hunters are the lamest. No doubt this two classes also are !
Regards,
baruch
Comment by baruch — October 14, 2009 @ 1:37 pm
Very informative post about the energy management. I do miss the days you could wait for just the right moment on the energy tick to open up on.
About the Tier 10 Gear. I think that the helm is hideous, and regarding the rest: I think that it’s boring and nothing too new. I’m kinda let down by the last few Rogue sets that have come out, although the remake of T3 looked pretty darn good.
Comment by Ashmedai — October 14, 2009 @ 3:11 pm
I never really put this much thought into energy.
Comment by JizzTheThug — October 14, 2009 @ 3:42 pm
Good read on energy pooling
As for the T10 helm, I actually kind of like it. The whole set gives you the “rogue feeling” when considering poisons. If you look closely at the gear, it really looks like actual leather that some bad-ass rogue would put together. That is my opinion anyway, maybe I wouldn’t show the helm.
Keep the articles coming!
Comment by Evolas — October 14, 2009 @ 5:49 pm
Let’s face it, not every Rogue set has to look like a ninja =/
Comment by Evolas — October 14, 2009 @ 5:51 pm
I have to agree with the posters above and Akrios, energy management and pooling is a necessary thing (f.e. pool energy for muti burst while a KS, etc). It changes things a bit less on combat or hemo-fleetfooted fun talents maybe.
Personally I really like t10, including the helmet.
It gives me the feeling, that my rogue is a really thief, dwelling in the shadows and the stinky sewers of Dalaran.
Comment by zenton — October 14, 2009 @ 8:18 pm
only looks good on undeads. Cant wait to lawl at the feral druids wearing the look alike pieces of the helm. For some ODD reason the dwarf version reminds me of Rosie o Donald.
Comment by Med — October 15, 2009 @ 12:31 am
only looks good on undeads. Cant wait to lawl at the feral druids wearing the look alike pieces of the helm.
For some ODD reason the dwarf version reminds me of Rosie o Donald. I know it looks nothing like her just the posture,eh maybe i am just messed up.
Comment by Med — October 15, 2009 @ 12:33 am
Kek. Kobey/Jaggers here.
You guys are all misinterpreting the T10. Apparently no one here watches Southpark.
I’ll tell you one thing though, my arena team name next season is gonna be “OMG You killed Kinney!”
Bahaha.
Comment by Kobey — October 15, 2009 @ 1:10 am
The worst helm I have ever seen as a tier gear. Really blizzard failed this time. I dont care if it looks like something in mgs or kennie’s head this is the worst design. And I have no idea why blizz tries to forget rogue-users that rogues are invisible asassins rather than a scuba-diver…
Comment by helroth — October 15, 2009 @ 7:08 am
Lol it also brings back memories of Scoobie-doo. The episode where the haunted scooba diver guy with the orange helm and glowing sea-weed. Also pretty intense.
On the other hand Im really in love with the s7 helm.
Comment by Kobey — October 15, 2009 @ 2:48 pm
http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/9_movie_photo_02-535×300.jpg
blizz watched this movie and was like wow, those guys looking omgawd sexy.
10seconds later rogue helm invented
Comment by Med — October 15, 2009 @ 10:17 pm
I interested in playing rogues this summer (after 2 years of mage, lols) and I gotta say, I love how many tricks it has agaisnt various classes, like mage does aswell.
Great post about the Energy Management! It gave me a new point of view at how to spend energy in Arenas.
The tier 10 gear set doesn’t look good to me, but again – The beauty is in the watchers eye. Especially that cyclop helm makes me puke. :<
Uh, and to Akrios: Awesome movies, learned so much from you, keep up the good work!
Best regards,
Kinnu,
The newb rogue.
Comment by Kinnu — October 16, 2009 @ 6:51 am
Actually, the model for the ghoul armor was around long before the movie 9. If you haven’t noticed, each class is dressin’ up as their scourge counterpart, DKs -> Arthas, Rogues -> Ghouls, etc.
Comment by Clatt — October 18, 2009 @ 11:03 am
So when you say saving your burst, do you mean sitting capped at 100% energy and auto attacking? I’m confused.
Comment by Clatt — October 18, 2009 @ 1:23 pm
What i think he means is that you shouldnt waste your energy when you know it wont result in a kill anyways. Having 100% energy when attempting a kill is necessary, especially these days when our burst aint as high as it used to be.
Comment by Deliwio — October 20, 2009 @ 4:48 am
I do love to this helm
Comment by DD — October 21, 2009 @ 1:09 am
T10 looks….so…awfull..
Comment by DarkHitman — October 21, 2009 @ 10:43 am
Akrios its syn get in touch dude!
Comment by Synific — October 22, 2009 @ 2:08 am
Nice post Akrios!!!, can we get more of this kinds of posts, helping fellow rogues with strategy for arena. It would be lovely. Thanks again, nice post.
Comment by Torton — October 22, 2009 @ 6:44 am
Luv the post on energy, keep on giving tips
And thx you for your great site, and vids.
Comment by ravnel — October 22, 2009 @ 10:13 pm
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Pingback by Community Watch- Rogue Weekly :: Rogue and PvP News — October 26, 2009 @ 5:35 am
T10 looks awesome. like the real rogue set must looks like.
Comment by Deadlycuts — October 27, 2009 @ 6:58 am
anyone else think the art team has seen the movie 9?
Comment by Redinator — November 5, 2009 @ 6:17 pm
hello guys mb u know where can i find Reckful videos? got that livestream page but becouse of my internet crap connection it gets laggy so i was wondering mb u know where , ty
Comment by Bakki — December 9, 2009 @ 1:26 am