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	<title>Comments on: Plans for Season 6, the Grass is always Greener, Mage / Rogue vs Ret / Healer Strats</title>
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		<title>By: Azero</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/05/07/plans-season-6-tribulations-green-grass-fence/comment-page-1/#comment-19040</link>
		<dc:creator>Azero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first link seems to be down right now</description>
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		<title>By: Ruhani</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/05/07/plans-season-6-tribulations-green-grass-fence/comment-page-1/#comment-10837</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruhani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Kidney Shot on pallies with 2/2 HoF talent, i got some questions about sheeping a human paladin.

1st Sheep &gt; used Every man for Himself
2nd Sheep &gt; used Trinket
3rd Sheep &gt; How many seconds it CC&#039;s ?
4th Sheep &gt; %100 immune?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Kidney Shot on pallies with 2/2 HoF talent, i got some questions about sheeping a human paladin.</p>
<p>1st Sheep &gt; used Every man for Himself<br />
2nd Sheep &gt; used Trinket<br />
3rd Sheep &gt; How many seconds it CC&#8217;s ?<br />
4th Sheep &gt; %100 immune?</p>
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		<title>By: Arondevine</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/05/07/plans-season-6-tribulations-green-grass-fence/comment-page-1/#comment-10072</link>
		<dc:creator>Arondevine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Akrios :),
firstly want to thank you for the vids and info. They been a great help to get my rogue into a proper pvp setup. Why I leave a message? I train ninjutsu in real life, and in pvp I sometimes feel that the ninpo philoshopy can be applied to it. You, same as I do, get frustrated. My gear isnt perfect ingame and its causing me a shitload of difficulty in 2v2. But what I learned in my real life training that I also apply to my ingame attitude, is that its impossible to be &quot;The best&quot;. But it is not impossible to be &quot;The best you can be&quot;. You should keep going at it, but don&#039;t get angry with yourself =P, you are doing good~ It remains a game after all ;).

Regards,

Aron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Akrios <img src='http://roguerogue.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ,<br />
firstly want to thank you for the vids and info. They been a great help to get my rogue into a proper pvp setup. Why I leave a message? I train ninjutsu in real life, and in pvp I sometimes feel that the ninpo philoshopy can be applied to it. You, same as I do, get frustrated. My gear isnt perfect ingame and its causing me a shitload of difficulty in 2v2. But what I learned in my real life training that I also apply to my ingame attitude, is that its impossible to be &#8220;The best&#8221;. But it is not impossible to be &#8220;The best you can be&#8221;. You should keep going at it, but don&#8217;t get angry with yourself =P, you are doing good~ It remains a game after all <img src='http://roguerogue.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Aron</p>
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		<title>By: Eviscerate Arenas Volume VI &#124; Rogue-Rogue</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/05/07/plans-season-6-tribulations-green-grass-fence/comment-page-1/#comment-10059</link>
		<dc:creator>Eviscerate Arenas Volume VI &#124; Rogue-Rogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 04:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dont give up mate  i think...in Plans for Season 6, the Grass is always Greener, Mage / Rogue vs Ret / Healer Strats [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dont give up mate  i think&#8230;in Plans for Season 6, the Grass is always Greener, Mage / Rogue vs Ret / Healer Strats [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Níghtcloud (Haemorush)</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/05/07/plans-season-6-tribulations-green-grass-fence/comment-page-1/#comment-10053</link>
		<dc:creator>Níghtcloud (Haemorush)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont give up mate :) i think alot of rogues read and watch your videos and i think you have a big influence on them, tbh having the attitude you have now is what is also making you a great player and being determined to try things new and strive to be one of the best rogues 

Good luck mate 

(p.s im also finding it very hard to find a good Priest for 3s &gt;.&lt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont give up mate <img src='http://roguerogue.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  i think alot of rogues read and watch your videos and i think you have a big influence on them, tbh having the attitude you have now is what is also making you a great player and being determined to try things new and strive to be one of the best rogues </p>
<p>Good luck mate </p>
<p>(p.s im also finding it very hard to find a good Priest for 3s &gt;.&lt;)</p>
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		<title>By: inflamelol</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/05/07/plans-season-6-tribulations-green-grass-fence/comment-page-1/#comment-8649</link>
		<dc:creator>inflamelol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akrioss and your friend nition this where some time ago that I do not see him in your videoes .... he(she) forgives my spelling I use translator</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akrioss and your friend nition this where some time ago that I do not see him in your videoes &#8230;. he(she) forgives my spelling I use translator</p>
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		<title>By: Rogue Mage vs Druid Plate strats, Rogue Solo&#8217;s Onyxia &#124; Rogue-Rogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogue Mage vs Druid Plate strats, Rogue Solo&#8217;s Onyxia &#124; Rogue-Rogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 06:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rogue Solo&#039;s OnyxiaKrymu 7 - Rogue PvPRandom Arena Clips, How to Sap a Vanish, 3.12 Official NotesPlans for Season 6, the Grass is always Greener, Mage / Rogue vs Ret / Healer StratsEviscerate: Arenas Volume V   Recent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rogue Solo&#8217;s OnyxiaKrymu 7 &#8211; Rogue PvPRandom Arena Clips, How to Sap a Vanish, 3.12 Official NotesPlans for Season 6, the Grass is always Greener, Mage / Rogue vs Ret / Healer StratsEviscerate: Arenas Volume V   Recent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Deliwio</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/05/07/plans-season-6-tribulations-green-grass-fence/comment-page-1/#comment-8170</link>
		<dc:creator>Deliwio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 00:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this might sound a bit strange but after wrath i feel like rogue movies have been more about epic moments and creative tricks. After watching Neilyo 14.5 i thought to myself that the class rogue had been fully discovered . But it didnt take long before i saw how wrong i actually was. Im trying to keep up with all these changes in rogue play style. Its become alot faster after wrath and there are occations were you have to preform something close to impossible. Like in a mirror rogue duel when you are getting opened on, from my POV there are only two ways of winning a duel with a decent rogue having opener on you, both are about avoiding blind. Either you will have to vanish his blind which i first thought was the only way when fighting a good rogue. Now it seems there are other ways of winning (gouge a trinket, sap vanish ect.).

Point is that i agree with Akrios that the game continues adding new content and discoveries. Blizzard alone aint the reason why the game continues being never ending but also (atleast in my eyes as a PvP´er) the players that constantly adds new strats/tricks you name it. Akrios, you are one of those players who keep me playing this game, i dont know if that  is suppose to be an insult or a thanks, however i do still enjoy it. Ty for ur great movies aswell, i feel in love ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this might sound a bit strange but after wrath i feel like rogue movies have been more about epic moments and creative tricks. After watching Neilyo 14.5 i thought to myself that the class rogue had been fully discovered . But it didnt take long before i saw how wrong i actually was. Im trying to keep up with all these changes in rogue play style. Its become alot faster after wrath and there are occations were you have to preform something close to impossible. Like in a mirror rogue duel when you are getting opened on, from my POV there are only two ways of winning a duel with a decent rogue having opener on you, both are about avoiding blind. Either you will have to vanish his blind which i first thought was the only way when fighting a good rogue. Now it seems there are other ways of winning (gouge a trinket, sap vanish ect.).</p>
<p>Point is that i agree with Akrios that the game continues adding new content and discoveries. Blizzard alone aint the reason why the game continues being never ending but also (atleast in my eyes as a PvP´er) the players that constantly adds new strats/tricks you name it. Akrios, you are one of those players who keep me playing this game, i dont know if that  is suppose to be an insult or a thanks, however i do still enjoy it. Ty for ur great movies aswell, i feel in love ^^</p>
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		<title>By: shaddyd</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/05/07/plans-season-6-tribulations-green-grass-fence/comment-page-1/#comment-8066</link>
		<dc:creator>shaddyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*ATTENTION**ATTENTION* incoming nerf to rogues who is running around with stealth detection googles.
&quot;We recently made some changes to items that grant stealth detection. We felt these items provided a necessary advantage in competitive PVP and forced players to use lower level equipment even when more powerful items were available to them.

This item can no longer be used in the Arena:

    * Ultra-Spectropic Detection Goggles


We have removed stealth detection from the following items:

    * All epic engineering goggles


We have reduced the stealth detection of the following items:

    * Catseye Ultra Goggles
    * Blood Guard&#039;s Dragonhide Gauntlets
    * Marshal&#039;s Dragonhide Gauntlets
    * Knight-Lieutenant&#039;s Dragonhide Gloves
    * General&#039;s Dragonhide Gloves
    * Bloodvine Lens
    * Knight-Lieutenant&#039;s Dragonhide Grips
    * Blood Guard&#039;s Dragonhide Grips
    * The Night Watchman



All of these changes are already active and the tooltips will be updated with the next minor patch.&quot;

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=55992.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*ATTENTION**ATTENTION* incoming nerf to rogues who is running around with stealth detection googles.<br />
&#8220;We recently made some changes to items that grant stealth detection. We felt these items provided a necessary advantage in competitive PVP and forced players to use lower level equipment even when more powerful items were available to them.</p>
<p>This item can no longer be used in the Arena:</p>
<p>    * Ultra-Spectropic Detection Goggles</p>
<p>We have removed stealth detection from the following items:</p>
<p>    * All epic engineering goggles</p>
<p>We have reduced the stealth detection of the following items:</p>
<p>    * Catseye Ultra Goggles<br />
    * Blood Guard&#8217;s Dragonhide Gauntlets<br />
    * Marshal&#8217;s Dragonhide Gauntlets<br />
    * Knight-Lieutenant&#8217;s Dragonhide Gloves<br />
    * General&#8217;s Dragonhide Gloves<br />
    * Bloodvine Lens<br />
    * Knight-Lieutenant&#8217;s Dragonhide Grips<br />
    * Blood Guard&#8217;s Dragonhide Grips<br />
    * The Night Watchman</p>
<p>All of these changes are already active and the tooltips will be updated with the next minor patch.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=55992.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=55992.0</a></p>
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		<title>By: HappyMinti</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/05/07/plans-season-6-tribulations-green-grass-fence/comment-page-1/#comment-8051</link>
		<dc:creator>HappyMinti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akrioss, you&#039;re the only of the movie maker rogues that I believe really has the quality of play to potentially move up to the professional level with a bit more practice and discipline. Unmercy, Mewbert, and Neil for example don&#039;t have enough discipline with their play style and make too many extraordinary mistakes that cause them games time after time. 

Rogue vs Rogue in 3v3 is all about cool down management and mistake making. Flashy movie making rogues who care about looks rather than results are going to continue to think rogue duels are in the very slightest a representation of arena and continue to make stupid mistakes which yield bad results. You have to be true to yourself, analyze your own play, and consider how you could improve it. 

If you want to play pro you have to play with good players which you are more than capable of finding, but you also have to learn to control you cool down management better. 2v2 is the worst bracket because it teaches you that Cd spamming and flashy BS is good, but in the only tournament bracket, 3v3, it is the opposite. Rogues are like a backbone to PMR. If your rogue can spam CDs you can get 2300, but if your rogue can&#039;t manage himself extremely well you&#039;ll never beat the top teams out there. 

Enforcer Pookz and Realz do well because they are all extremely good players, have amazing synergy, and play fantastic. But I can tell you, enforcer is the FIRST rogue since Emolol to come onto the professional scene and actually manage himself very well. 

If you want to go pro, I would start with dropping the movie making for a short while and playing 3v3 and only 3v3 with the best Priest and Mage you can find. Don&#039;t stop until you get #1 on Rampage, and once you do don&#039;t stop queueing. Rating on live means nothing, people don&#039;t get sponsorships anymore off of rating on live. You get it off of TR performance and Lan performance.

If you use any mods, now is the time to lose them if you&#039;re serious.

Best of Luck
-Minti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akrioss, you&#8217;re the only of the movie maker rogues that I believe really has the quality of play to potentially move up to the professional level with a bit more practice and discipline. Unmercy, Mewbert, and Neil for example don&#8217;t have enough discipline with their play style and make too many extraordinary mistakes that cause them games time after time. </p>
<p>Rogue vs Rogue in 3v3 is all about cool down management and mistake making. Flashy movie making rogues who care about looks rather than results are going to continue to think rogue duels are in the very slightest a representation of arena and continue to make stupid mistakes which yield bad results. You have to be true to yourself, analyze your own play, and consider how you could improve it. </p>
<p>If you want to play pro you have to play with good players which you are more than capable of finding, but you also have to learn to control you cool down management better. 2v2 is the worst bracket because it teaches you that Cd spamming and flashy BS is good, but in the only tournament bracket, 3v3, it is the opposite. Rogues are like a backbone to PMR. If your rogue can spam CDs you can get 2300, but if your rogue can&#8217;t manage himself extremely well you&#8217;ll never beat the top teams out there. </p>
<p>Enforcer Pookz and Realz do well because they are all extremely good players, have amazing synergy, and play fantastic. But I can tell you, enforcer is the FIRST rogue since Emolol to come onto the professional scene and actually manage himself very well. </p>
<p>If you want to go pro, I would start with dropping the movie making for a short while and playing 3v3 and only 3v3 with the best Priest and Mage you can find. Don&#8217;t stop until you get #1 on Rampage, and once you do don&#8217;t stop queueing. Rating on live means nothing, people don&#8217;t get sponsorships anymore off of rating on live. You get it off of TR performance and Lan performance.</p>
<p>If you use any mods, now is the time to lose them if you&#8217;re serious.</p>
<p>Best of Luck<br />
-Minti</p>
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