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	<title>Comments on: Vanish: Coping with it&#8217;s Realities, Suggestions for the Future</title>
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		<title>By: jogging</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/03/31/interesting-blue-vanish-coping-realities/comment-page-1/#comment-15745</link>
		<dc:creator>jogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use vanish as another trinket to break snares in pvp, when it actually leaves me stealthed it usually takes me a sec to figure it out.... oh well, 2 less snares per arena ftw!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use vanish as another trinket to break snares in pvp, when it actually leaves me stealthed it usually takes me a sec to figure it out&#8230;. oh well, 2 less snares per arena ftw!</p>
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		<title>By: chuge</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/03/31/interesting-blue-vanish-coping-realities/comment-page-1/#comment-6984</link>
		<dc:creator>chuge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rogue/warlock &gt; dk/pally</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rogue/warlock &gt; dk/pally</p>
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		<title>By: dankh of detheroc</title>
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		<dc:creator>dankh of detheroc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone confirm if the the minor glyph of vanish works now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone confirm if the the minor glyph of vanish works now?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;[RogueRogue] Vanish facts and suggestions....&lt;/strong&gt;

RogueRogue.com&#039;s post

Vanish is far from perfect, but like it or not it’s one of our most essential, class defining abilities. I’d go as far as to say the outcome of the majority of my arena games is a result of how effective my vanishes were. ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[RogueRogue] Vanish facts and suggestions&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>RogueRogue.com&#8217;s post</p>
<p>Vanish is far from perfect, but like it or not it’s one of our most essential, class defining abilities. I’d go as far as to say the outcome of the majority of my arena games is a result of how effective my vanishes were. &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scizok</title>
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		<dc:creator>scizok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What i have done instead of having Cheap Shot over Mutilate.
i have made a macro that is as followed

#showtooltip vanish
/stopattack
/cast vanish
/cast cheap shot

This macro will, if close enough, cheap shot right when you vanish. 
Or
you could just have Cheap Shot over Stealth(a mashable button now) and it will Cheap Shot the target as soon as it switchs through the bars.
However, i find my vanish macro works amazingly for those fast rogue duels and arenas that you have to pull that quick finishing stun off on him/her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What i have done instead of having Cheap Shot over Mutilate.<br />
i have made a macro that is as followed</p>
<p>#showtooltip vanish<br />
/stopattack<br />
/cast vanish<br />
/cast cheap shot</p>
<p>This macro will, if close enough, cheap shot right when you vanish.<br />
Or<br />
you could just have Cheap Shot over Stealth(a mashable button now) and it will Cheap Shot the target as soon as it switchs through the bars.<br />
However, i find my vanish macro works amazingly for those fast rogue duels and arenas that you have to pull that quick finishing stun off on him/her.</p>
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		<title>By: Sall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha.. bet me they lose their target. A hunter in my guild who I duel frequently is sometimes able to autoshoot me out of 2 consecutive vanishes. Never loses his target on me.

He isn&#039;t the only one. Pets (such as gargoyles ^^) are a nuisance.

Vanish needs a complete overhaul IMO. With all this time that Blizzard is able to spend on 3.1, they couldn&#039;t work on a recognized broken ability? Give me a fuckin break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha.. bet me they lose their target. A hunter in my guild who I duel frequently is sometimes able to autoshoot me out of 2 consecutive vanishes. Never loses his target on me.</p>
<p>He isn&#8217;t the only one. Pets (such as gargoyles ^^) are a nuisance.</p>
<p>Vanish needs a complete overhaul IMO. With all this time that Blizzard is able to spend on 3.1, they couldn&#8217;t work on a recognized broken ability? Give me a fuckin break.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaykis</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/03/31/interesting-blue-vanish-coping-realities/comment-page-1/#comment-6067</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaykis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are one of the most logical rogues that I know in game, not just with skills but your understanding of the class is top ranked in my opinion. So I do hope you put your ideas (like this one) in front of the Devs. Not in the forum cause that place is a mess all the time and you will just get lost in useless blatter. Anyways I will kee checking up here many times to listen to your opinion. 

Rogue Powa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are one of the most logical rogues that I know in game, not just with skills but your understanding of the class is top ranked in my opinion. So I do hope you put your ideas (like this one) in front of the Devs. Not in the forum cause that place is a mess all the time and you will just get lost in useless blatter. Anyways I will kee checking up here many times to listen to your opinion. </p>
<p>Rogue Powa!</p>
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		<title>By: Rendevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rendevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be absolutly useless as vanish causes anyone who is targeted on you to lost there target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be absolutly useless as vanish causes anyone who is targeted on you to lost there target.</p>
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		<title>By: Sennaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sennaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally hate being Death griped while cloaking and vanishing only to be auto attacked out of it when I land where I was deathgriped.I hate having some huntard shoot me out of vanish twice while im trying to save my skin only to wind up dead and yeah I know there are precautions to it Like gouge him and then sprint away and vanish but Its difficult when your at low health and your mind set is to get away. In my opinon and this is following more lore if you will, but Stealth is rogues signature move I think it should be harder to break then right now same with vanish Because Our opener is everything In most situations.I think vanish should make you immune to all dmg (Minus AoE) Including bleeds/dots because I cant handle a full set of feral druid bleeds if they hop on me and I try and run Ill die even with 18k HP its just so much dmg at once Now if I can get away and eat Behind some building or pillar that would be better instead of being facerolled and if I  dont have cloak I can Be killed by A set of lock dots or even Spriest dots If I cant eat in a short amount of time.I think alot of rogues would be happy if they just fix vanish In this low survivability world of Broken resil and Burst pvp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally hate being Death griped while cloaking and vanishing only to be auto attacked out of it when I land where I was deathgriped.I hate having some huntard shoot me out of vanish twice while im trying to save my skin only to wind up dead and yeah I know there are precautions to it Like gouge him and then sprint away and vanish but Its difficult when your at low health and your mind set is to get away. In my opinon and this is following more lore if you will, but Stealth is rogues signature move I think it should be harder to break then right now same with vanish Because Our opener is everything In most situations.I think vanish should make you immune to all dmg (Minus AoE) Including bleeds/dots because I cant handle a full set of feral druid bleeds if they hop on me and I try and run Ill die even with 18k HP its just so much dmg at once Now if I can get away and eat Behind some building or pillar that would be better instead of being facerolled and if I  dont have cloak I can Be killed by A set of lock dots or even Spriest dots If I cant eat in a short amount of time.I think alot of rogues would be happy if they just fix vanish In this low survivability world of Broken resil and Burst pvp.</p>
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		<title>By: Zareph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zareph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I play on Vashj-EU and I&#039;ve never seen anyone who wasn&#039;t 41-5-25 for PvP. Same while I was on Darksorrow-EU.

So I doubt it, Jaggers :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I play on Vashj-EU and I&#8217;ve never seen anyone who wasn&#8217;t 41-5-25 for PvP. Same while I was on Darksorrow-EU.</p>
<p>So I doubt it, Jaggers <img src='http://roguerogue.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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