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		<title>By: Marvinas</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/03/16/301-patch-notes-rogue-review/comment-page-1/#comment-6486</link>
		<dc:creator>Marvinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies for the incoming noob questions.

I recently turned Mut for the first time since lvl60 but have been having a bit of trouble keeping the rotations up. From what I understand HFB now requires the the target to have a bleed effect before use. How will this effect the rotations (sorry if i have the wrong end of the stick)?

With these changes, would I be better off switching back to combat for raw dps? The extra damage on killing spree looks good.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for the incoming noob questions.</p>
<p>I recently turned Mut for the first time since lvl60 but have been having a bit of trouble keeping the rotations up. From what I understand HFB now requires the the target to have a bleed effect before use. How will this effect the rotations (sorry if i have the wrong end of the stick)?</p>
<p>With these changes, would I be better off switching back to combat for raw dps? The extra damage on killing spree looks good.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Kissthat</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/03/16/301-patch-notes-rogue-review/comment-page-1/#comment-6434</link>
		<dc:creator>Kissthat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gr8 work guys - TYVM for 3.1.0 breakdown.

Kissthat 80 alli rogue on Burning Steppes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gr8 work guys &#8211; TYVM for 3.1.0 breakdown.</p>
<p>Kissthat 80 alli rogue on Burning Steppes</p>
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		<title>By: scizok</title>
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		<dc:creator>scizok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your trainer</description>
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		<title>By: Faeyna (Kul Tiras, Arena Realm 1)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faeyna (Kul Tiras, Arena Realm 1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Muti rogue by nature but for a while I had to go Combat, due to the fact that my DPS was suffering cause the daggers from Naxx and such just would not drop.

I was Combat swords and here was my rotation.

(In Stealth:)
Open with a Garrote/Ambush, I personally prefer Garrote. Stay behind target and pop Blade Flurry off the bat and Sinister Strike to 4-5 points.
Pop Slice and Dice, continue to Sinister Strike to 4-5 points and hit Rupture. As with any rogue PvE rotation, these are the two most valuable Combo moves that must stay up to ensure a good cycle.

Continue DPSing, ensuring that you allow your regular white melee attacks to do their part as well, so you can stock on Energy. While Slice and Dice is still up, ensure the following:

-Rupture is still ticking.
-If Rupture is still ticking, and Slice and Dice has good time on it, hit Eviscerate. Adrenaline Rush is good way to ensure that you can keep the ticks and your SnD up while Eviscerating away.

Utilize your CDs early so they are available again in later fights.

If there are no warriors in the group I like to add Expose Armor inside the attacks as well to give a general overall boost to damage. 

Sometime during midfight, I will blow my Vanish to reopen again with Garrote and recontinue the fight. I especially use this on boss fights with Patchwerk/KT/Sapph/Archavon and even Sarth if he does not knock me out of Stealth.

This was my general cycle, but IMO, I think Combat takes a bit getting used to if you are coming from a Cut to the Chase rotation. 

Using Reaper of Dark Souls w/Titanium Weapon Chain in MH and Hatestike w/ Mongoose in OH I was pulling an easy 2.7K on a Patchwerk 10man fight.

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Muti rogue by nature but for a while I had to go Combat, due to the fact that my DPS was suffering cause the daggers from Naxx and such just would not drop.</p>
<p>I was Combat swords and here was my rotation.</p>
<p>(In Stealth:)<br />
Open with a Garrote/Ambush, I personally prefer Garrote. Stay behind target and pop Blade Flurry off the bat and Sinister Strike to 4-5 points.<br />
Pop Slice and Dice, continue to Sinister Strike to 4-5 points and hit Rupture. As with any rogue PvE rotation, these are the two most valuable Combo moves that must stay up to ensure a good cycle.</p>
<p>Continue DPSing, ensuring that you allow your regular white melee attacks to do their part as well, so you can stock on Energy. While Slice and Dice is still up, ensure the following:</p>
<p>-Rupture is still ticking.<br />
-If Rupture is still ticking, and Slice and Dice has good time on it, hit Eviscerate. Adrenaline Rush is good way to ensure that you can keep the ticks and your SnD up while Eviscerating away.</p>
<p>Utilize your CDs early so they are available again in later fights.</p>
<p>If there are no warriors in the group I like to add Expose Armor inside the attacks as well to give a general overall boost to damage. </p>
<p>Sometime during midfight, I will blow my Vanish to reopen again with Garrote and recontinue the fight. I especially use this on boss fights with Patchwerk/KT/Sapph/Archavon and even Sarth if he does not knock me out of Stealth.</p>
<p>This was my general cycle, but IMO, I think Combat takes a bit getting used to if you are coming from a Cut to the Chase rotation. </p>
<p>Using Reaper of Dark Souls w/Titanium Weapon Chain in MH and Hatestike w/ Mongoose in OH I was pulling an easy 2.7K on a Patchwerk 10man fight.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Asilim</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/03/16/301-patch-notes-rogue-review/comment-page-1/#comment-6424</link>
		<dc:creator>Asilim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WaTs Up guys jus switched from mut pve to combat pve can you tell me the rotation in which i can get a good dps cycle going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WaTs Up guys jus switched from mut pve to combat pve can you tell me the rotation in which i can get a good dps cycle going.</p>
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		<title>By: Krysus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krysus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Site is great, I have learned a new trick or two from you.. thanks man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Site is great, I have learned a new trick or two from you.. thanks man</p>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/03/16/301-patch-notes-rogue-review/comment-page-1/#comment-6008</link>
		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am excited for the new patch. Hopefully rogues are pushing more dps out in 25 mans. When WoTLK came out i was super bummed that rogues were like bottom of dps charts (that was unless you were HaT, but even then rogues didnt bask in that glory for long). I cant wait too see what the more armor pen does. i have been trying out a Mace combat spec and it does some great dmg/dps with the right rotation. I guess all we can do is wait and see. I mean after all these &quot;changes&quot; arent written in stone and can be changed at any time, like most of us know oh to well. Thank you for the updates Failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am excited for the new patch. Hopefully rogues are pushing more dps out in 25 mans. When WoTLK came out i was super bummed that rogues were like bottom of dps charts (that was unless you were HaT, but even then rogues didnt bask in that glory for long). I cant wait too see what the more armor pen does. i have been trying out a Mace combat spec and it does some great dmg/dps with the right rotation. I guess all we can do is wait and see. I mean after all these &#8220;changes&#8221; arent written in stone and can be changed at any time, like most of us know oh to well. Thank you for the updates Failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>combat pvp ?</description>
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		<title>By: Chaks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx Failure for guide =) i try combat later i think in fist/dagger spec, cause a lot of people say that it more actual than swords, if i not right tell me please.

P.S.
Sorry for bad english didn&#039;t practise along time in it, since playing on russian realms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx Failure for guide =) i try combat later i think in fist/dagger spec, cause a lot of people say that it more actual than swords, if i not right tell me please.</p>
<p>P.S.<br />
Sorry for bad english didn&#8217;t practise along time in it, since playing on russian realms.</p>
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		<title>By: silencedeath</title>
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		<dc:creator>silencedeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok and where can i pahy those 1000 gold to be able to change my talents any time i want to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok and where can i pahy those 1000 gold to be able to change my talents any time i want to?</p>
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