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	<title>Comments on: Give me your Votes! More Bad News for 3.1</title>
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		<title>By: факультет туризма</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-41276</link>
		<dc:creator>факультет туризма</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 19:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Не спорю, неуместная заметка</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Не спорю, неуместная заметка</p>
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		<title>By: Стегнов</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-38028</link>
		<dc:creator>Стегнов</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>В принципе, написавший кошерно написал.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>В принципе, написавший кошерно написал.</p>
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		<title>By: Герман</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-35141</link>
		<dc:creator>Герман</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Нужная тема, добавлю ка в избранное</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Нужная тема, добавлю ка в избранное</p>
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		<title>By: Spix</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-5142</link>
		<dc:creator>Spix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uhm.. i don´t rly see why blizz won´t nerf all classes so that the arenas / duels can last atleast 4 min instead of 4 sec.... srsly... as &quot;the Fat Cow&quot; said: If the pvp in TBC had HIV, the PVP in WOTLK clearly as hell have Aids..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhm.. i don´t rly see why blizz won´t nerf all classes so that the arenas / duels can last atleast 4 min instead of 4 sec&#8230;. srsly&#8230; as &#8220;the Fat Cow&#8221; said: If the pvp in TBC had HIV, the PVP in WOTLK clearly as hell have Aids..</p>
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		<title>By: Huntard</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-5081</link>
		<dc:creator>Huntard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote] So let me get this straight. It’s ok for a ret pally to kill me in a hoj. It’s ok for a deathknight to obliterate me for 10000+ and a hunter to kill me in a tnt stun, all classes with higher survivability than rogues. It’s ok for a pally to burst heal for a players entire health bar without ever casting and never go oom, but rogue damage is too ridiculous. Blue posts like this kind of disgust me. [/quote]

L2Read patch notes before QQ about the well deserved nerfs the Rogue class is receiving. A Hunters TNT stun gets removed! And if you got killed while being randomly chain stunned, L2Play.

A Hunter has more survivability then a Rogue!? Seriously? GTFO. A Rogue doing 4k crits and a ton of 1ks in a row while the oposite player cant do jack shit about it requires no skill at all.

To quote my most favorite quote of the year.

[quote]If someone literally has almost no response for your attacks then that is not skill that is allowing you to win matches (and I am not just talking to rogues here).[/quote]

Congratz,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote] So let me get this straight. It’s ok for a ret pally to kill me in a hoj. It’s ok for a deathknight to obliterate me for 10000+ and a hunter to kill me in a tnt stun, all classes with higher survivability than rogues. It’s ok for a pally to burst heal for a players entire health bar without ever casting and never go oom, but rogue damage is too ridiculous. Blue posts like this kind of disgust me. [/quote]</p>
<p>L2Read patch notes before QQ about the well deserved nerfs the Rogue class is receiving. A Hunters TNT stun gets removed! And if you got killed while being randomly chain stunned, L2Play.</p>
<p>A Hunter has more survivability then a Rogue!? Seriously? GTFO. A Rogue doing 4k crits and a ton of 1ks in a row while the oposite player cant do jack shit about it requires no skill at all.</p>
<p>To quote my most favorite quote of the year.</p>
<p>[quote]If someone literally has almost no response for your attacks then that is not skill that is allowing you to win matches (and I am not just talking to rogues here).[/quote]</p>
<p>Congratz,</p>
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		<title>By: stuns45</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-4971</link>
		<dc:creator>stuns45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just dosent seem right any pally,hunter, or dk can hit 2k with naxx 10 man epics. i mean i get keilled within the 1st 2secs of comeing out of stealth. blizz what the hell are u thinking? i kno every1 bitches when there class gets nerfed but come on this is a joke! maybe its time to switch over to darkfall. aleast they listen to there players instead of giveing them the same BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just dosent seem right any pally,hunter, or dk can hit 2k with naxx 10 man epics. i mean i get keilled within the 1st 2secs of comeing out of stealth. blizz what the hell are u thinking? i kno every1 bitches when there class gets nerfed but come on this is a joke! maybe its time to switch over to darkfall. aleast they listen to there players instead of giveing them the same BS.</p>
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		<title>By: TheDonP</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-4968</link>
		<dc:creator>TheDonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, from a new user standpoint, when  ifirst got the game, rogues cought my eye, and i&#039;ve been learning of them ever since.. From this page alone, i will tell you what it does to new rogue players such as myself.. DEMORALIZES us... i have lvl 36 rogue - and since i heard about the nerf, i&#039;ve begun a couple characters, but still everyday i push on with my rogue.  Saying, things must look up.. As an inscription/herbalist, i&#039;m hoping these glyphs take us somewhere, and with dual specs, maybe we can regain our reputation.. But to the wise lvl 80 rogue - to a still learning my character lvl 36 rogue - what advice can you tell me? Switch to DK at lvl 55? Thats one of the reasons i&#039;m still pushing on with this character is the idea that i can still switch i guess.  Say things get real bad, someone mentioned a re-roll - to me, that sounds like starting over with the same talent points but with a different class? im sure blizzard would charge for something like this? But for now i will still push on, i havn&#039;t bought the new addon, only up to the last one, i see it as why spend the money, how is being a lvl 36 and having the newest addon going to help me AT ALL? This is jhust the feelings of a freshly started, leveling, and trying to figure out what the hell to do, noob rogue.  We are demoralized and confused.  What should i worry the most about? What should i concentrate the most on? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, from a new user standpoint, when  ifirst got the game, rogues cought my eye, and i&#8217;ve been learning of them ever since.. From this page alone, i will tell you what it does to new rogue players such as myself.. DEMORALIZES us&#8230; i have lvl 36 rogue &#8211; and since i heard about the nerf, i&#8217;ve begun a couple characters, but still everyday i push on with my rogue.  Saying, things must look up.. As an inscription/herbalist, i&#8217;m hoping these glyphs take us somewhere, and with dual specs, maybe we can regain our reputation.. But to the wise lvl 80 rogue &#8211; to a still learning my character lvl 36 rogue &#8211; what advice can you tell me? Switch to DK at lvl 55? Thats one of the reasons i&#8217;m still pushing on with this character is the idea that i can still switch i guess.  Say things get real bad, someone mentioned a re-roll &#8211; to me, that sounds like starting over with the same talent points but with a different class? im sure blizzard would charge for something like this? But for now i will still push on, i havn&#8217;t bought the new addon, only up to the last one, i see it as why spend the money, how is being a lvl 36 and having the newest addon going to help me AT ALL? This is jhust the feelings of a freshly started, leveling, and trying to figure out what the hell to do, noob rogue.  We are demoralized and confused.  What should i worry the most about? What should i concentrate the most on? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Acyra</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-4949</link>
		<dc:creator>Acyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As some of you said - the problem isn&#039;t really the nerf, because it requires more skill to play the nerfed class after it which means more fun. Still now I remember a green lock on EU Rogue forums saying &quot;I hope you all get nerfed to the ground, so that you will not even be able to kill a rat!&quot; 

Hope Blizzard aren&#039;t tossing a coin to decide  which posts to look at as it seems like they are ignoring serious posts and listening to green geared whiners. 

I&#039;m sure things will change over time but for now - we are going to be ****ed up by every 100 resi nab in arena...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some of you said &#8211; the problem isn&#8217;t really the nerf, because it requires more skill to play the nerfed class after it which means more fun. Still now I remember a green lock on EU Rogue forums saying &#8220;I hope you all get nerfed to the ground, so that you will not even be able to kill a rat!&#8221; </p>
<p>Hope Blizzard aren&#8217;t tossing a coin to decide  which posts to look at as it seems like they are ignoring serious posts and listening to green geared whiners. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure things will change over time but for now &#8211; we are going to be ****ed up by every 100 resi nab in arena&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Khr</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-4945</link>
		<dc:creator>Khr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Blizzard want to balance between players not clasess. If you are skilled one and you like rogue that happen. Yes I see Blizzards point, they want everyone be happy, nonskilled playes also can do pvp - so yes they can play with retri and DK which is OP. But when skilled players play with OP class then blizz screw up, that happening already, some DKs and Retris unbeatable. In this case those nerfs makes me laugh - some time I cant stop my self to think about GM&#039;s are playing another game? Don&#039;t we play same game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Blizzard want to balance between players not clasess. If you are skilled one and you like rogue that happen. Yes I see Blizzards point, they want everyone be happy, nonskilled playes also can do pvp &#8211; so yes they can play with retri and DK which is OP. But when skilled players play with OP class then blizz screw up, that happening already, some DKs and Retris unbeatable. In this case those nerfs makes me laugh &#8211; some time I cant stop my self to think about GM&#8217;s are playing another game? Don&#8217;t we play same game?</p>
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		<title>By: bearshunter</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2009/02/17/give-votes-bad-news-31/comment-page-2/#comment-4929</link>
		<dc:creator>bearshunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunally im totally agree whit you all guys. I play my rogue since i&#039;ve started to play WoW. Im a PvP sick and relolled mutilate for Sub long time ago. Pally dont scary me and dks too. To kill them is not only istant damage but all is a question of tactic. We want to speak about warriors tank or druids tank? well i have seriously problem to defeat them or better are impossible for me eheheheh. 
Anyway they can nerf us but never can stop us.
I still use shadow dance and is really amazing when i can hit 3x ambush a pally for over 5k or kill a priest or mages with only 2x ambush for over 9k even if you are behind them /crap!
My opinion at moment is the PvP gear suxs cos you have to many choise with PvE euipment. I have tryed to play with 900 resiliance eheheh and this is funny ...nothing change mages can hit you for 7k, dks for 5/6k  and pally too without problems, and my AP go down from 3700 at 2800 and crit from 36% at 29%.
Waiting for the new patch/nerf i send a big thanks to you guys, great site and great effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunally im totally agree whit you all guys. I play my rogue since i&#8217;ve started to play WoW. Im a PvP sick and relolled mutilate for Sub long time ago. Pally dont scary me and dks too. To kill them is not only istant damage but all is a question of tactic. We want to speak about warriors tank or druids tank? well i have seriously problem to defeat them or better are impossible for me eheheheh.<br />
Anyway they can nerf us but never can stop us.<br />
I still use shadow dance and is really amazing when i can hit 3x ambush a pally for over 5k or kill a priest or mages with only 2x ambush for over 9k even if you are behind them /crap!<br />
My opinion at moment is the PvP gear suxs cos you have to many choise with PvE euipment. I have tryed to play with 900 resiliance eheheh and this is funny &#8230;nothing change mages can hit you for 7k, dks for 5/6k  and pally too without problems, and my AP go down from 3700 at 2800 and crit from 36% at 29%.<br />
Waiting for the new patch/nerf i send a big thanks to you guys, great site and great effort.</p>
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