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		<title>By: Adrian Flynn</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2008/08/30/new-wotlk-rogue-changes-life-on-blood-furnace/comment-page-1/#comment-3369</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
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good luck</description>
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		<title>By: baruch</title>
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		<dc:creator>baruch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with what you say (I guess it&#039;s Akrios ^^ ) about the positional requirement of Mutilate and I&#039;m quite disappointed that Blizzard made such a move. I hope this can still change.

Maybe with the come back of backstab / ambush which require you to be behind the target they wanted to make things different for mutilate, but I fear this will result in a loss of burst damage for mutilate. I don&#039;t have fears about the viabilty of mutilate and I guess it will become way more useful in arenas, but the gameplay will not be as exciting as before. Well I guess after few weeks we&#039;ll get use to the new mut but...

Oh and I wanted to point out one thing that you don&#039;t talk about in your comment: what do you think about the fact that (as far as I know), the stuns are not buffed or even changed in WotlK? It&#039;s one of the main features (with stealth, burst damage and poisons imo) of the rogue, one that can make you love this class, and they seem to be ignored in the new expansion. When we see the new stun resist mechanics which reduce stun duration, many classes depending on talents will be able to lessen the stun duration: does this mean that rogues are going to rely less on stuns (I mean less as they rely now, I know they have other strenghts)?

Well if you can deal with these issues. 

P.S. I can&#039;t wait to see your new videos with WotlK, you&#039;re by far the most skilled / intertaining to watch rogue I know, the simple fact that you prefer mutilate is great and your analysis about the rogue gameplay are very interesting too :)

Well I hope you get the meaning of my words, as you see I&#039;m not fluent in english ;) bb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with what you say (I guess it&#8217;s Akrios ^^ ) about the positional requirement of Mutilate and I&#8217;m quite disappointed that Blizzard made such a move. I hope this can still change.</p>
<p>Maybe with the come back of backstab / ambush which require you to be behind the target they wanted to make things different for mutilate, but I fear this will result in a loss of burst damage for mutilate. I don&#8217;t have fears about the viabilty of mutilate and I guess it will become way more useful in arenas, but the gameplay will not be as exciting as before. Well I guess after few weeks we&#8217;ll get use to the new mut but&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh and I wanted to point out one thing that you don&#8217;t talk about in your comment: what do you think about the fact that (as far as I know), the stuns are not buffed or even changed in WotlK? It&#8217;s one of the main features (with stealth, burst damage and poisons imo) of the rogue, one that can make you love this class, and they seem to be ignored in the new expansion. When we see the new stun resist mechanics which reduce stun duration, many classes depending on talents will be able to lessen the stun duration: does this mean that rogues are going to rely less on stuns (I mean less as they rely now, I know they have other strenghts)?</p>
<p>Well if you can deal with these issues. </p>
<p>P.S. I can&#8217;t wait to see your new videos with WotlK, you&#8217;re by far the most skilled / intertaining to watch rogue I know, the simple fact that you prefer mutilate is great and your analysis about the rogue gameplay are very interesting too <img src='http://roguerogue.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well I hope you get the meaning of my words, as you see I&#8217;m not fluent in english <img src='http://roguerogue.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  bb</p>
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		<title>By: Critler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Critler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yasth it&#039;s almost 3 weeks and no updates. Welp I have an update for them I guess. Nition and Akrios transfered off of Gurubashi and on to Cho&#039; Gall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yasth it&#8217;s almost 3 weeks and no updates. Welp I have an update for them I guess. Nition and Akrios transfered off of Gurubashi and on to Cho&#8217; Gall.</p>
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		<title>By: Ataraxia</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2008/08/30/new-wotlk-rogue-changes-life-on-blood-furnace/comment-page-1/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataraxia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like you guys are really hard pressed to find updates, or just lost interest, or something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you guys are really hard pressed to find updates, or just lost interest, or something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Pixelz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pixelz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogue (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8926))

    * Anesthetic Poison now also dispels one Enrage effect on the target.
    * Blade Twisting (Combat) now cause all damaging melee attacks to have a 10% chance to daze for 4/8 seconds, movement speed reduced by 70%.
    * Camouflage (Subtlety) reduced to 3 ranks for 5/10/15% speed and 2/4/6 secs off the cooldown of Stealth.
    * Cloak of Shadows cooldown increased to 1.5 min.
    * Crippling Poison reduced to 1 rank, slowing movement by 70%.
    * Dagger Specialization (Combat) renamed Close Quarters Combat, moved to tier 3, now increases critical strike chance with Daggers and Fist Weapons by 1/2/3/4/5%.
    * Damaging poisons now scale with attack power.
    * Deadened Nerves (Assassination) reduced to 3 ranks, now reduces all damage taken by 2/4/6%.
    * Deflection (Combat) reduced to 3 ranks, increasing parry by 2/4/6%.
    * Disarm Trap range increased to 20 yards, cast time reduced, now requires stealth.
    * Dual Wield Specialization (Combat) moved to tier 1.
    * Elusiveness (Subtlety) moved to Tier 3, now reduces cooldown of Vanish and Blind by 30/60 sec and Cloak of Shadows by 15/30 sec.
    * Endurance (Combat) now reduces cooldown of Evasion and Sprint by 30/60 secs.
    * Envenom now also increases your chance to apply poisons by 25% for 2-6 seconds (based on combo points).
    * Evasion, Sprint and Vanish cooldowns reduced to 3 min.
    * Find Weakness (Assassination) is now a passive talent, reduced to 3 ranks, increases damage of offensive abilities by 3/6/9%.
    * Fist Weapon Specialization (Combat) removed.
    * Improved Ambush (Subtlety) moved to Tier 4, reduced to 2 ranks for 25/50%.
    * Improved Eviscerate (Assassination) now increases damage by 7/14/20%.
    * Improved Expose Armor (Assassination) now reduces the energy cost by 5/10, no longer increases duration.
    * Improved Poisons (Assassination) now increases chance to apply poisons by 5/10/15/20/25%.
    * Improved Slice and Dice (Combat) reduced to 2 ranks, increases duration by 25/50%.
    * Improved Sprint (Combat) moved to Tier 4.
    * Initiative (Subtlety) moved to Tier 4, increased to 33/66/100% chance.
    * Lethality (Assassination) now also affects Riposte.
    * Lightning Reflexes (Combat) moved to tier 4.
    * Mace Specialization (Combat) no longer stuns enemies, now ignores 3/6/9/12/15% of target&#039;s armor.
    * Master of Deception (Subtlety) reduced to 3 ranks.
    * Mind-Numbing Poison reduced to 1 rank, slowing casting speed by 60%.
    * Murder (Assassination) moved to tier 6, increases damage by 2/4%.
    * Mutilate (Assassination) no longer requires you be behind the target.
    * Nerves of Steel (Combat) now reduces damage taken while Stunned or Feared by 15/30%.
    * Opportunity (Subtlety) reduced to 2 ranks for 10/20%.
    * Poisons skill removed. All finished poisons are available on vendors rather than created by the rogue.
    * Precision (Combat) now also increases chance to hit with poison attacks by 1/2/3/4/5%.
    * Premeditation (Subtlety) duration increased to 20 seconds, cooldown reduced to 20 seconds.
    * Preparation (Subtlety) no longer refreshes the cooldown of Premeditation.
    * Relentless Strikes (Assassination) moved to Tier 1 Subtlety, made 5 ranks for 4/8/12/16/20% chance.
    * Riposte (Combat) now slows the target&#039;s melee attacks by 20% instead of disarming them, awards one combo point.
    * Serrated Blades (Subtlety) moved to Tier 3.
    * Shadowstep (Subtlety) is no longer usable while rooted.
    * Surprise Attacks (Combat) now also increases Hemorrhage damage.
    * Vigor (Assassination) moved to Tier 3.
    * Wounding Poison no longer stacks, reduces healing by 50%.
credits : http://www.mmo-champion.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogue (Skills List / Talent Calc. (8926))</p>
<p>    * Anesthetic Poison now also dispels one Enrage effect on the target.<br />
    * Blade Twisting (Combat) now cause all damaging melee attacks to have a 10% chance to daze for 4/8 seconds, movement speed reduced by 70%.<br />
    * Camouflage (Subtlety) reduced to 3 ranks for 5/10/15% speed and 2/4/6 secs off the cooldown of Stealth.<br />
    * Cloak of Shadows cooldown increased to 1.5 min.<br />
    * Crippling Poison reduced to 1 rank, slowing movement by 70%.<br />
    * Dagger Specialization (Combat) renamed Close Quarters Combat, moved to tier 3, now increases critical strike chance with Daggers and Fist Weapons by 1/2/3/4/5%.<br />
    * Damaging poisons now scale with attack power.<br />
    * Deadened Nerves (Assassination) reduced to 3 ranks, now reduces all damage taken by 2/4/6%.<br />
    * Deflection (Combat) reduced to 3 ranks, increasing parry by 2/4/6%.<br />
    * Disarm Trap range increased to 20 yards, cast time reduced, now requires stealth.<br />
    * Dual Wield Specialization (Combat) moved to tier 1.<br />
    * Elusiveness (Subtlety) moved to Tier 3, now reduces cooldown of Vanish and Blind by 30/60 sec and Cloak of Shadows by 15/30 sec.<br />
    * Endurance (Combat) now reduces cooldown of Evasion and Sprint by 30/60 secs.<br />
    * Envenom now also increases your chance to apply poisons by 25% for 2-6 seconds (based on combo points).<br />
    * Evasion, Sprint and Vanish cooldowns reduced to 3 min.<br />
    * Find Weakness (Assassination) is now a passive talent, reduced to 3 ranks, increases damage of offensive abilities by 3/6/9%.<br />
    * Fist Weapon Specialization (Combat) removed.<br />
    * Improved Ambush (Subtlety) moved to Tier 4, reduced to 2 ranks for 25/50%.<br />
    * Improved Eviscerate (Assassination) now increases damage by 7/14/20%.<br />
    * Improved Expose Armor (Assassination) now reduces the energy cost by 5/10, no longer increases duration.<br />
    * Improved Poisons (Assassination) now increases chance to apply poisons by 5/10/15/20/25%.<br />
    * Improved Slice and Dice (Combat) reduced to 2 ranks, increases duration by 25/50%.<br />
    * Improved Sprint (Combat) moved to Tier 4.<br />
    * Initiative (Subtlety) moved to Tier 4, increased to 33/66/100% chance.<br />
    * Lethality (Assassination) now also affects Riposte.<br />
    * Lightning Reflexes (Combat) moved to tier 4.<br />
    * Mace Specialization (Combat) no longer stuns enemies, now ignores 3/6/9/12/15% of target&#8217;s armor.<br />
    * Master of Deception (Subtlety) reduced to 3 ranks.<br />
    * Mind-Numbing Poison reduced to 1 rank, slowing casting speed by 60%.<br />
    * Murder (Assassination) moved to tier 6, increases damage by 2/4%.<br />
    * Mutilate (Assassination) no longer requires you be behind the target.<br />
    * Nerves of Steel (Combat) now reduces damage taken while Stunned or Feared by 15/30%.<br />
    * Opportunity (Subtlety) reduced to 2 ranks for 10/20%.<br />
    * Poisons skill removed. All finished poisons are available on vendors rather than created by the rogue.<br />
    * Precision (Combat) now also increases chance to hit with poison attacks by 1/2/3/4/5%.<br />
    * Premeditation (Subtlety) duration increased to 20 seconds, cooldown reduced to 20 seconds.<br />
    * Preparation (Subtlety) no longer refreshes the cooldown of Premeditation.<br />
    * Relentless Strikes (Assassination) moved to Tier 1 Subtlety, made 5 ranks for 4/8/12/16/20% chance.<br />
    * Riposte (Combat) now slows the target&#8217;s melee attacks by 20% instead of disarming them, awards one combo point.<br />
    * Serrated Blades (Subtlety) moved to Tier 3.<br />
    * Shadowstep (Subtlety) is no longer usable while rooted.<br />
    * Surprise Attacks (Combat) now also increases Hemorrhage damage.<br />
    * Vigor (Assassination) moved to Tier 3.<br />
    * Wounding Poison no longer stacks, reduces healing by 50%.<br />
credits : <a href="http://www.mmo-champion.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mmo-champion.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ataraxia</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2008/08/30/new-wotlk-rogue-changes-life-on-blood-furnace/comment-page-1/#comment-1102</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataraxia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L2p guys, less emails so they can do more updates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L2p guys, less emails so they can do more updates.</p>
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		<title>By: bondubel</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2008/08/30/new-wotlk-rogue-changes-life-on-blood-furnace/comment-page-1/#comment-1101</link>
		<dc:creator>bondubel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check your emails akrios^^ i feel HPM is too weak when it comes to dmg but to me imp sap seems extremely important  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check your emails akrios^^ i feel HPM is too weak when it comes to dmg but to me imp sap seems extremely important  <img src='http://roguerogue.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hadrhune</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2008/08/30/new-wotlk-rogue-changes-life-on-blood-furnace/comment-page-1/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator>Hadrhune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that Opportunity is still buffing Mutilate when striking from behind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that Opportunity is still buffing Mutilate when striking from behind</p>
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		<title>By: Assailant</title>
		<link>http://roguerogue.com/2008/08/30/new-wotlk-rogue-changes-life-on-blood-furnace/comment-page-1/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>Assailant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BAD-iator indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BAD-iator indeed.</p>
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